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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Oct 13, 2011 15:14:23 GMT -4
We've talked about it a while back, a few nominees were put up, and then nothing.
So, any word from current President or Vice as to whats going on with these? Are they happening or are we just defaulting on to anyone showing interest??
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Post by Thorgeir on Oct 14, 2011 21:06:49 GMT -4
we were supposed to vote in person so that we would get more of a voting populace, because no one checks online (including myself lately). Of course no one shows up to practice for the past couple weeks, but we also changed locations which confused people, so its been a bit of a cluster. To be honest, I really have no idea what is happening as far as elections, no one is really stepping up, because we were going to handle at practice, but no one is there. I've just been lazy about the forums.
I missed last practice and heard there was a bunch of people from Manton. I just have terrible timing and a lack of real interest in forcing people to do something. Elections were basically really out of whack this year.
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Post by Rhiannon StarFire on Oct 14, 2011 21:46:11 GMT -4
As a way to kick-start things why don't we get a list started here of who wants to volunteer for positions? That way at least we're starting something and have a general idea of who wants to volunteer. Thoughts?
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Post by Aldvarg Egilsson on Oct 14, 2011 23:12:45 GMT -4
Just to be clear we are talking club elections and not realm elections rite?
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Post by Rhiannon StarFire on Oct 14, 2011 23:49:34 GMT -4
The NMC club is the realm. A realm = area of practice. Various chapters exist within the realm and these chapters govern themselves (Welcrie, DU, and Eryndor). The ream leader's responsibilities involve managing college relations, filling out paperwork, and other various administrative stuff.
So yeah they are club elections.
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Post by Aldvarg Egilsson on Oct 15, 2011 12:49:24 GMT -4
Not trying to stir things up but a realm IS an area of practice. A realm IS a chapter. A group within a realm is a unit. You shouldn't have 3 chapters in one location. Realm = Chapter, Chapter is the mundane name for realm.
By defiintion, Welcrie (unit) the Wolves and Imp gaurd are units within the Traverse City chapter not the other way around.
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Oct 15, 2011 14:27:06 GMT -4
This subject is one of the more confusing ones in Dagorhir, and both of you are right to an extent. Having spoken in the past with several leaders and veterans within Dag, this is the generally accepted explanation:
Realm - Physical location. NMC Is a Realm, and an area of practice. Then in some cases there are local CHAPTERS of Groups. Those groups then have the defined units of like-minded individuals.
Imperial Guard is a unit. They belong to the local Chapter of Eryndor. They practice in the NMC Realm.
The Vetrvaldyr are a unit. They belong to the local Chapter of the Empire of the Wolf. They practice in the NMC Realm.
The Welcrie... Were envisioned and created as a free faction of mercenaries. If maintained as such, they would be a Unit (and Chapter, should they gain members in other geographical locations, as almost happened with the Southern Welcrie I heard rumors of years ago), who practice in the NMC Realm.
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Oct 15, 2011 14:27:53 GMT -4
So, the only elections that really matter to all groups are the NMC Realm Elections.  |
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Oct 15, 2011 14:51:28 GMT -4
STORY TIME!!!! lol This is to catch everyone up on why this division has been needed.
Now, most areas have it easy, like Eryndor South, they are 95% Eryndor. Or Aratari, which have so many units that there really is no need to be part of a different group. Back when this practice started, everyone was Welcrie. Then, two of the Welcrie joined Imperial Guard of Eryndor, and discarded their Welcrie ties, even though they practiced WITH Welcrie... Cue the start of the confusion. Then one joined Warband of Eryndor, but stayed away from the Eryndor side of things, becoming Warband unit, Welcrie realm. This was the first odd contemplation about what the meaning of realm was, since IG remained firm about saying Realm: Eryndor.
Then the Warband Unit spread, getting 6 or so members. Then there was an event that divided us from our Welcrie ties, leaving us Welcrie by location alone, save for the few members who wanted to still retain their connections. Then we doubled in number, to where we are now, becoming the Vetrvaldyr.
Around this point, Welcrie gained independent leadership, something it never really had before. This created a problem that needed to be solved, since the majority of the Dagorhirrim were not Welcrie, but Welcrie still, by name, was the controlling faction.
Thus, the idea of re-branding the realm to the NMC Realm, and allowing each group to do their own thing, with the only OVERALL leader being the one dealing with the college duties and connections. This eliminates any favoritism, cross-group politicking, and other matters, leaving conflict to the field of battle where it belongs, and giving each group free-reign to do as it pleases amongst themselves (Eryndor Cuddle Puddles not the intended visual).
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Post by Grim "Odd" Stoneskull on Oct 15, 2011 19:31:27 GMT -4
So Presidesnt must be a college student....what are the other positions?
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Post by Aldvarg Egilsson on Oct 15, 2011 20:12:14 GMT -4
ALOT of people are confused as to what a Realm/chapter/unit is. But that does clear things up some. We need to refer to the Welcrie as a unit and change the name of the realm, or vice versa. By making the NMC club the realm, there is no need for another chapter, just call the Welcrie a unit and let it run itself. The IG can run their group and Will can worry about the Vetrvaldyr.
Anyway back on topic. Who is interested. Who are we voting for and when? I will help anyway I can. I can't be Prez. but am willing to do anything else. (I am out of school at the end of the semester)
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Post by Rhiannon StarFire on Oct 15, 2011 20:25:56 GMT -4
We need to refer to the Welcrie as a unit and change the name of the realm, or vice versa. By making the NMC club the realm, there is no need for another chapter, just call the Welcrie a unit and let it run itself. The IG can run their group and Will can worry about the Vetrvaldyr. This has been discussed by many of our Dag veterans but it was decided that it should be put off until after the elections to save Spencer the headache lol I'm willing to put in my hat for president again. The reason I quit last time was because the drama was making me insane and causing copious amounts of stress. But with the newer realm system in place that Will described each group can manage their own politics. I have no problem with the paperwork side of the job  |
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Post by Aldvarg Egilsson on Oct 15, 2011 22:38:55 GMT -4
There shall be no drama, for I shall smite all llamas of drama!
Seriously tho we need to get this handled SOON. Grimm and I have been talking and we have a few things we want to do but we are waiting on the elections so we can move forward. Things like a comunity weapons build day and such.
As far as I know we need a person from each unit for a total of 3 ppl on the NMC "board". Are there other positions?
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Oct 16, 2011 0:07:16 GMT -4
As far as I recall, it's just President thats NEEDED to be voted on, then the president can pick their own staffing, if I remember right from the last elections we had.
Then it's just a matter of Unit representatives. The Vetrvaldyr have the Tribunal, IG has, well, the two of em, and I'd imagine Raven to be Welcrie's rep.
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Post by Rhiannon StarFire on Oct 16, 2011 8:15:11 GMT -4
I've spoken to Pheonix about the whole "council" thing and his response was something like "Yeah sure, whatever. Just keep me informed." lol
In all seriousness though one thing I love about our realm is that no matter who has been leader there has always been a sense of group consensus first and foremost whenever a major decision needs to be made. I don't think that will be a problem now, especially with each unit handling their own politics.
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