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Post by Zombie on Jan 15, 2009 16:13:47 GMT -4
just go to wal-mart get some 14 Gage metal coil from the home improvement section, and a dowel rod, wrap the metal coil around the rod creating a spring looking thinger and then take some tin snips to it and vwall ah, you have chain maille rings
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Jan 15, 2009 16:15:56 GMT -4
Wow, that's legal? I'd contemplated it before, but wasn't sure if it would be. That's a great idea though... I might use it for sleeves between my pauldrons and bracers.
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Jan 20, 2009 13:11:02 GMT -4
Question for that, how would the rings stay together? It seems you'd have to do something to prevent them pulling apart
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Post by Krayth the Forum Uruk on Jan 22, 2009 13:58:49 GMT -4
Weld the ends of the rings together once they're placed.
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Jan 22, 2009 14:49:07 GMT -4
Dag rules state that it has to be 16 gauge wire to be legal though... bummer.
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Jan 22, 2009 14:57:13 GMT -4
Nevermind, just found this:
5.2.4. Acceptable Standards for 4:1 European Weave Chain mail
Gauge 12 14 16 18 Etc Butted Link Maximum Ring Diameter 1/2" 3/8" 5/16" 1/4" ** Non-Butted Maximum Link Diameter* 1/2" 3/8" 3/8" 3/8" ** *Non-Butted = Riveted, welded, punched, etc. **At the discretion of the event organizers
so yeah, for 14 gauge you'd need 3/8" diameter ring/link
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Post by Danoth on Jan 22, 2009 19:55:50 GMT -4
5.2.2. The minimum thickness of non-plate metal armor is 16-gauge.
Chain maille is extremly easy to make people....you can also put a hole in the dowl rod, attach a hand drill to the one end and spin it all up like that. Cost effective, easy, strong( if you do it right) But very very time consuming if you dont knwo how to do it.
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Post by Danoth on Jan 22, 2009 19:56:49 GMT -4
btw 14 gauge is thicker than 16 jsut so you know...gauges in everything the smaller the bigger it is.
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Post by Lord Wilhelm Arngrimsson on Jan 22, 2009 23:12:33 GMT -4
Ya'know... I kinda knew that, but then after all the leatherworking I've been dealing with, leather size was imbedded in my head and for some reason my brain flipped gauge-size-difference.
Oh, by the way, I had a dream that we had an impromptu dag party, and you guys were the only ones who showed up. Yay divvy 8! lol
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Post by Kristof on Aug 1, 2011 17:55:34 GMT -4
I was looking at the Dagohir rules and I couldn't find any mention of using split rings for chain mail. Wouldn't it be easier to use split rings to make a mail shirt? Or is it because split rings are illegal in some way...i.e. they aren't "period"? Look at these websites: www.worthco.com/rings/spltring.htmlwww.worthco.com/rings/pdf/heavyweightrings.pdf.040 diameter is 18 gauge .045 diameter is 17 gauge .051 diameter is 16 gauge The split rings are only "single" thickness in one area for a small length of the ring. Otherwise the ring is twice as thick as there are 2 wires laying on top of each other. The prices aren't bad either at $17.50 per thousand in either zinc or nickel finish. You can get finer wire rings in brass. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Chris
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Post by Kristof on Aug 1, 2011 17:57:02 GMT -4
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Post by Aldvarg Egilsson on Aug 1, 2011 22:20:32 GMT -4
By split do you mean butted? If so then yes butted mail is legal.
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Post by Kristof on Aug 1, 2011 22:30:13 GMT -4
No not butted at all. Take a look at the web site they have a picture of the split rings. If you fish...it is the rings that hold the hooks to the lures and they come in bigger sizes too.
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Post by Aldvarg Egilsson on Aug 2, 2011 0:01:18 GMT -4
oh i get what you are saying now. I do not know for sure if that is legal or not. Might be to "modern" of a look, but again I don't know.
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Post by Drængr Ironhawk on Aug 2, 2011 19:55:15 GMT -4
I think using split rings would be much harder to work with than simply butting them yourself. Each ring will have to have at least 4 other rings connected to it. When you have a couple long chains made and are tying them together, I bet it would be very difficult to weave twirl that last ring around the other four. I believe someone in the group bought a ringinator, www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl54XoTSfIQ . And I have access to lathes if you want to coil some wire to make springs.
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